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"I for one welcome our insect overlords" - The Politics Thread

midfielder

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Just sharing....one of my daughter in laws is a nurse.... she said that the Dr running in Robertson has a great reputation among nursing staff...

Taken from his wiki page ....

Gordon Reid (born 1992)[1][2] is an Australian physician and politician who has been the Labor MP for Robertson since the 2022 Australian federal election, when he defeated Liberal incumbent Lucy Wicks.[3]

Reid is a Wiradjuri man who was born on Darkinjung country and grew up on the Central Coast.[1][2] He attended Umina Beach Public School and Central Coast Grammar School, before studying medicine at the University of Newcastle, completing his B.Med. in 2016.[1]

Reid previously worked as an emergency doctor.[4] He said that he decided to run for Parliament while working in the Emergency Department at Wyong Hospital during the COVID-19 pandemic, seeing people waiting for treatment.[5]

After his election in 2022, Reid is one of six First Nations people in the Labor Caucus.[2] He speaks Indonesian and plays the saxophone.[2]
 

marinermick

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A school friend of mine was running for the senate for Labor. She invited me to meet to meet Dr Reid a few months ago just as he was endorsed.

We spent two hours at my wife’s cafe in Tascott. As the locals came in he introduced himself, listened to people, spoke intelligently and was really passionate about issues like health, the environment, refugees and the local economy. But most of all he just listened.

I was that impressed that he got my vote straight away. I didn’t vote Labor at the last Federal and State elections.

He is green and very young for politics at twenty-nine but this is not necessarily a bad thing. It is up to him now to passionately represent the Coast that was so devoid of representation the last nine years, and to follow in the footsteps of such strong and involved past members like Deb O’Neill (Labor) and Jim Lloyd (Liberal).

Like all things time will tell but now having met him and having his contact details I, for one, will make my very small contribution in trying to keep him accountable.
 

Man Overboard

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I've never been a party member and am a swinging voter. I often wondered about party faithful who hand out how to vote material in all kinds of weather, attend meetings etc when the likelihood of any one of them becoming an MP is so small. Whats in it for them? I suppose that it a passion for the party's philosophy and local issues rather than any benefit for themselves. If this is the case it is no wonder there is such hostility to parachuted candidate/Captain's picks. If I was a local party member I would be livid
 

marinermick

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I've never been a party member and am a swinging voter. I often wondered about party faithful who hand out how to vote material in all kinds of weather, attend meetings etc when the likelihood of any one of them becoming an MP is so small. Whats in it for them? I suppose that it a passion for the party's philosophy and local issues rather than any benefit for themselves. If this is the case it is no wonder there is such hostility to parachuted candidate/Captain's picks. If I was a local party member I would be livid

That’s why the local Liberals and the Federal Libs went to court over the Dobell selection and he was only endorsed the week before the election was announced.
 

Insertnamehere

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I've never been a party member and am a swinging voter. I often wondered about party faithful who hand out how to vote material in all kinds of weather, attend meetings etc when the likelihood of any one of them becoming an MP is so small. Whats in it for them? I suppose that it a passion for the party's philosophy and local issues rather than any benefit for themselves. If this is the case it is no wonder there is such hostility to parachuted candidate/Captain's picks. If I was a local party member I would be livid
Usually family and friends as well zealous local party members
 

pjennings

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A school friend of mine was running for the senate for Labor. She invited me to meet to meet Dr Reid a few months ago just as he was endorsed.

We spent two hours at my wife’s cafe in Tascott. As the locals came in he introduced himself, listened to people, spoke intelligently and was really passionate about issues like health, the environment, refugees and the local economy. But most of all he just listened.

I was that impressed that he got my vote straight away. I didn’t vote Labor at the last Federal and State elections.

He is green and very young for politics at twenty-nine but this is not necessarily a bad thing. It is up to him now to passionately represent the Coast that was so devoid of representation the last nine years, and to follow in the footsteps of such strong and involved past members like Deb O’Neill (Labor) and Jim Lloyd (Liberal).

Like all things time will tell but now having met him and having his contact details I, for one, will make my very small contribution in trying to keep him accountable.
Talking of Jim Lloyd. I met his family as they were giving out HTV at Glenvale School. If you judge a candidate by their family he would still be member. Later that day I took my kids up for their first votes. The family had be replaced by paid Young Libs from Sydney. Absolute arseholes!!!
 

Insertnamehere

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Pretty sure, if the economy tanks, the ALP WILL get the blame.
Of course. The economy is gonna tank, its defs on the horizon. Too much cheap money into unproductive assets, stagflation, structural deficit in the budget, rapid rate rises. There's fk all capacity for the economy to cope.

Its gonna be another recession we had to have moment. Now I'm not old enough remember the Keating one, but they didn't have the levers to pull like have. But ours are basically maxed with how people want to live nowadays.
 

pjennings

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I'm getting pretty sick of the 'only a third' of people voted for the ALP. We have a compulsory preferential system of voting in Australia. When you have senior political reporters parroting this crap does that mean they don't understand the system or are they showing there bias and trying to delegitimise the result. Albanese's result in terms of 2PP is better than Keating's win, Beazley's loss (though he won the 2PP in 1998, Hawke's wins in 1987 and 1990 and Gillard's win in 2010.

Of course in was a strange election but this is the Coalitions worst result in turns of seats since the Whitlam era. They won 50/125 when Hawke first won and 58/125 when Whitlam first won. This time it is 59/151 - barely 39% of the seats.

Election2PPSeatsChangePM
5 March 1983 election53.20%46.80%7550YesHawke
2 December 1972 election52.70%47.30%6758YesWhitlam
24 November 2007 election52.70%47.30%8365YesRudd
1 December 1984 election51.80%48.20%8266Hawke
18 May 1974 election51.70%48.30%6661Whitlam
21st May 2022 election51.60%48.40%7659YesAlbanese
13 March 1993 election51.40%48.60%8065Keating
3 October 1998 election51.00%49.00%6780Howard
11 July 1987 election50.80%49.20%8662Hawke
21 August 2010 election50.10%49.90%7272Gillard
24 March 1990 election49.90%50.10%7869Hawke
18 October 1980 election49.60%50.40%5174Fraser
2 July 2016 election49.60%50.40%6976Turnbull
10 November 2001 election49.00%51.00%6582Howard
18 May 2019 election48.50%51.50%6877Morrison
9 October 2004 election47.30%52.70%6087Howard
7 September 2013 election46.50%53.50%5590YesAbbott
2 March 1996 election46.40%53.60%4994YesHoward
10 December 1977 election45.40%54.60%3886Fraser
13 December 1975 election44.30%55.70%3691YesFraser
 
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Man Overboard

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The self delusion has already begun. SMH front page a couple of days ago was Keneally blaming her failure on Covid lockdowns in the west of Sydney. No reference to being a rejected parachutist.
 

pjennings

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There is no doubt a fair deal of animosity surrounding a parachuted candidate in. But Andrew Charlton was also parachuted into Parramatta.

Dai Le's campaign was anti-lockdown where she blamed the Libs at both federal and state level. However she also blamed the ALP for accepting the govt's position.

i.e. a pox on both houses.

Dai Le thought that the lock downs in Fowler as opposed the lack of lock downs in the beachside elecorates was the main reason for her win. Keneally agrees with her.

Parramatta was mot shut down as much as Fowler and had a small swing to a parachuted candidate

TBH it was probably a combination of both.
 
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Man Overboard

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I noticed that the new government has a ministry whose title includes '...Republic' so I guess we will all be asked to revisit this matter sooner rather than later.

Last time around I was a "If it aint broke dont try to fix it" anti republican. I saw all of the associated costs and risks of changing the status quo for an uncertain replacement system.
I am now a passionate republican and while I want to see the alternative on offer first, I am keen to disassociate myself from a family of parasites.
Why the change?
I recommend reading "And what do you do? : What the royal family dont want you to know" by Norman Baker. CCC library has copies-much cheaper than buying your own. Baker was a long serving Liberal MP in the UK and member of the Privy Council that doled out the outrageous amount of public funds to this inbred family. Very well written, easy to read, wonderfully researched, entertaining and amazing.
 

Wombat

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I noticed that the new government has a ministry whose title includes '...Republic' so I guess we will all be asked to revisit this matter sooner rather than later.

Last time around I was a "If it aint broke dont try to fix it" anti republican. I saw all of the associated costs and risks of changing the status quo for an uncertain replacement system.
I am now a passionate republican and while I want to see the alternative on offer first, I am keen to disassociate myself from a family of parasites.
Why the change?
I recommend reading "And what do you do? : What the royal family dont want you to know" by Norman Baker. CCC library has copies-much cheaper than buying your own. Baker was a long serving Liberal MP in the UK and member of the Privy Council that doled out the outrageous amount of public funds to this inbred family. Very well written, easy to read, wonderfully researched, entertaining and amazing.
Yawn.
 

Big Al

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I noticed that the new government has a ministry whose title includes '...Republic' so I guess we will all be asked to revisit this matter sooner rather than later.

Last time around I was a "If it aint broke dont try to fix it" anti republican. I saw all of the associated costs and risks of changing the status quo for an uncertain replacement system.
I am now a passionate republican and while I want to see the alternative on offer first, I am keen to disassociate myself from a family of parasites.
Why the change?
I recommend reading "And what do you do? : What the royal family dont want you to know" by Norman Baker. CCC library has copies-much cheaper than buying your own. Baker was a long serving Liberal MP in the UK and member of the Privy Council that doled out the outrageous amount of public funds to this inbred family. Very well written, easy to read, wonderfully researched, entertaining and amazing.
They need to have a referendum for the aboriginal policy I believe so they might target a two for one. Would be interesting if they did as one may take away from the other or they might try tie the two together as a look what England did to the aboriginals and are they going to wait for the Queen to pass?

You would think you’d have a better chance after the Queen passes and Charlie is the King.

They may target the republic for term 2.
 

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