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A League Expansion

marinermick

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The South East of Melbourne (Mornington Peninsula, Dandenong and Frankston) has a clear identity seperate from most of Melbourne. But have never really had a professional side in any sport, bar the brand new South East Melbourne Phoenix.

While I personally despise City and CFG for what they did to Heart they at least know what they are doing.

If they can be an "upper class" club in the vein of the Melbourne Demons or Hawthorn Hawks they will find real success. Basing themselves in the South East will also deliver another huge potential geographical fanbase who are largely unrepresented in professional sport. This fanbase is also largely migrant and first generation Australians in the more working class areas of Dandenong and Frankston.

This is all assuming of course that people can support a colonial club representing the interests of a human rights abusing dictatorship.

Upper class and SE Melbourne?
 

style_cafe

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The South East of Melbourne (Mornington Peninsula, Dandenong and Frankston) has a clear identity seperate from most of Melbourne. But have never really had a professional side in any sport, bar the brand new South East Melbourne Phoenix.

While I personally despise City and CFG for what they did to Heart they at least know what they are doing.

If they can be an "upper class" club in the vein of the Melbourne Demons or Hawthorn Hawks they will find real success. Basing themselves in the South East will also deliver another huge potential geographical fanbase who are largely unrepresented in professional sport. This fanbase is also largely migrant and first generation Australians in the more working class areas of Dandenong and Frankston.

This is all assuming of course that people can support a colonial club representing the interests of a human rights abusing dictatorship.
JP I like the geographics that you outline and think that once a team is established in a large area,then people will gravitate to them. Then as the children grow and move away they stay connected to that area by continuing to support the team from their childhood.
We`re just starting to see that with many on the forum not living on the coast anymore.
We also have the tack ons (no offence mate) that have never lived on the coast but just enjoy what the Mariner`s represent.
In essence, as our league is only still young we we are part of the evolution of football in this country.
As time moves on we will see Mariners supporters grow in numbers around the Australia and eventually around the world.
That`s why,as a sport, we need to tap into regional markets (as I said previously above) to grow the game across the country... :popcorn:
 

Allreet?

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A lot of Mariners' Sydney supporters are ex followers of Northern Spirit, the team that made up the bulk of the Mariners squad in season 1.
Yep, I used to be a regular at North Sydney in the first two seasons before moving up here. Was very happy when we got the licence and brought some of the younger Spirit boys north.

Lawrie, in his book, says he had to talk Hutcho out of effective retirement to come to the Mariners. Would've been a different world if he hadn't.
 

Allreet?

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If you want to find out, come to Bay Road before home games. I sometimes hand out a few freebies.

And yes, I know you were joking BG...
 

Yorkshire Mariners FC

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Have we got a National 2nd division thread Who would you like involved? In what format? Should NSL teams (other than Syd United) be allowed to be considered? I personally would have liked a 2nd kiwi side. Let's say you had to pick 10, who ya got?
I'd start. My selections culled NSL teams:
South Hobart
Sunshine Coast FC Fire
Cockburn City
Football SA Merger
Gungahlin United
Bentleigh Greens

One of Gold Coast United/Brisbane United (though NSL part of BU bid)
Sutherland/ Cronulla Sharks or Rockdale Ilinden if Cronulla pull out
That's 8.
Valentine FC for shits and giggles
Then I suppose another Vic one but that opens NSL
Let's say Green Gully.
Thoughts?
 

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sydmariner

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Have we got a National 2nd division thread Who would you like involved? In what format? Should NSL teams (other than Syd United) be allowed to be considered? I personally would have liked a 2nd kiwi side. Let's say you had to pick 10, who ya got?
I'd start. My selections culled NSL teams:
South Hobart
Sunshine Coast FC Fire
Cockburn City
Football SA Merger
Gungahlin United
Bentleigh Greens

One of Gold Coast United/Brisbane United (though NSL part of BU bid)
Sutherland/ Cronulla Sharks or Rockdale Ilinden if Cronulla pull out
That's 8.
Valentine FC for shits and giggles
Then I suppose another Vic one but that opens NSL
Let's say Green Gully.
Thoughts?
Manly United, CCU:)
 

turbo

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My biggest question is what has changed in Auckland since last time?
The article mentions the ground of choice which I've heard others on reddit mention was a pain. And there's plenty of examples of the difference an owner can make, the Bakries being a master class in what not to do.

I think Auckland makes a lot of sense from a commercial perspective. It will add value to the NZ deal, should mean a regular early game to provide content that doesn't overlap other games and avoid the worst of the summer heat. A derby could increase interest in the NZ market too. If their numbers stack up relative to other markets I'm all for it.
 

turbo

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From this:
The moves to establish a Canberra club for the Isuzu UTE A-League Men are significantly further advanced than plans for Auckland, after months of meetings between APL executives and ACT stakeholders across government, football and sports infrastructure operators. APL is creating a partnership with the Capital Region Football Collective, the group behind Canberra’s unsuccessful bid for a licence in 2018, and plans a fan’s forum in April.

Reads like they've got preferred partners/bidders locked in provided they still have their funding secured.
 

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