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CCF possible split with FNSW

marinermick

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There is talk that CCF are looking to split from Football NSW. They are jack that almost a million of our dollars go to FNSW with very little in return.

But the very large straw that breaks the camel back is the proposed fee structure for next season:
- a doubling of FNSW fees for each of our player registrations.
- FNSW to be the central bank for all registration deposits and they will then dole out the association and club components to the associations when they see fit.
- All rego fees to be paid in full at the time of registration.
- All registration fees can only be paid by credit card.
- No refund on registrations for any reason.
- No discount on rego fees that clubs have in place e.g, early bird discount, life member discount, family discount etc.

There are also a number of associations thinking of owing the same.
 

turbo

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I really don’t know what Football NSW gives us for our contribution. There’s an insurance scheme but it’s pretty poor and you need to jump through hoops. I could have claimed this season but it’s not worth the hassle for getting a few hundred back.
Out of close to $400 for senior rego $83 is earmarked for FNSW, with a separate category for CCF - FNSW.

If I’m connecting the dots correctly you’re suggesting next years rego would be over $450, if so that’s disgusting and there should be a very clear breakdown of why.
 

marinermick

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I really don’t know what Football NSW gives us for our contribution. There’s an insurance scheme but it’s pretty poor and you need to jump through hoops. I could have claimed this season but it’s not worth the hassle for getting a few hundred back.
Out of close to $400 for senior rego $83 is earmarked for FNSW, with a separate category for CCF - FNSW.

If I’m connecting the dots correctly you’re suggesting next years rego would be over $450, if so that’s disgusting and there should be a very clear breakdown of why.

Hence why the split. Enough is enough.
 

turbo

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Hence why the split. Enough is enough.
Im behind it then. They’ll never let it happen but there should be a serious examination in the role of the state level bodies in the current era. Surely there’s the possibility of centralising some functions with the FFA and others at an association level to strip out some inefficiency.

And some of the stuff I’ve seen out of QLD with legal action against Bonita Mersiades is a stain on the game and it’s administration.
 

style_cafe

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So if they split where do they go?
They need to meet with the other associations and convince them to stand together to break the status quo.
It`s been done before 20 years ago.
FNSW wouldn`t want the bad publicity that such a campaign against them could bring...:popcorn:
 

Tevor

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I used to play in the Lidcombe association and the Hills area wanted to split and FNSW wouldn’t back the move so they went it alone and after one year FNSW came begging on their knees for them to join again and the Hills Assoc to remain separate. I knew one of the guys involved in the nitty gritty and they had so much cash left over after finding separate insurance they gave it back to the clubs to find equipment and clothing for players. I recall him saying how he never realised how much went to FNSW for very little return. It can be done but a lot of work as you also need to start a referee association as well.
 

marinermick

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Further to my first post, Football NSW is proposing a split payment system for those who register. Once registered you need to pay the Football NSW/FFA component to Football NSW and the Association/Club component to the club. Two separate payments.

What a clusterf%#k!
 

turbo

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Do they think people are dumb enough not to see the total cost if it’s split? If anything it will only foster more negativity once people realise the chunk that goes up the food chain with little coming back. Particularly if they are increasing their fee.
 

marinermick

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Do they think people are dumb enough not to see the total cost if it’s split? If anything it will only foster more negativity once people realise the chunk that goes up the food chain with little coming back. Particularly if they are increasing their fee.

exactly what I thought
 

style_cafe

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The "rip off" of amateur players has always been in place.
FNSW is a top heavy administration that gives little or nothing back to local players.
The player insurance has always been pathetic and little more than a money collecting exercise.
20 years ago when we had Amateurs and Federation the Amateurs used to get sponsored by the insurance company to the tune of $100,000- a season.
You don`t have to be a rocket scientist to work out the scam there.
The two administrations duplicated services and charged associations for the so called services.
It wasn`t until Macarthur,Easts and St.George Associations stood up to them and were then backed up by Albury and Wagga Associations that changes were made.
All that the amateurs were able to hold over our heads was Champions of Champions,a competition that they ran for nothing except the trophy costs.
Our breakaway forced the Amateurs to the table and the following year FNSW was formed.
It seems now that 20 years later the same thing is happening.
The people Associations vote for have seized the power for their own good and not for the good of grassroots players.
The only way to get rid of these bastards is for the associations to rise up against them and boot them out.
That will then show the FFA that we wont take the shit they serve the people.
 

turbo

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Issue is FNSW whats to run and broadcast a second division and pay for it with player subs.

I would support a one or two off levy paid to the FFA to establish a broadcasting platform and national second division infrastructure.I don’t think players should be subsidising individual clubs and there’s no reason for Football NSW to be the ones with their hand out.
 

style_cafe

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Issue is FNSW whats to run and broadcast a second division and pay for it with player subs.
What would a second division have to do with FNSW?
Surely if the A League was to have a B League then it would be run by the same organisation whether it be the FFA or the A League self governing.
I`m sure the other states wouldn`t be in favour of FNSW running a second Division either.

If that is the plan from FNSW, then taxing the kids and the " for fun players" is not the route they should be taking...:popcorn:
 

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