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CCM vs Victory Away

JoyfulPenguin

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Is this the game the Melbourne curse is broken?

With Victory almost out of finals contention this is a fairly crucial game for them if they are going to make anything of this season.

Looking forward to my third game in person this season and hope to see the away bay packed out!
 
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Capn Gus Bloodbeard

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Hope so.....and it's one of those games where I kind of feel like if we can't win this, and do so convincingly, then we don't deserve to be in the finals.

We all know we hit a pretty big rut late this season - if we win, and especially if we do so convincingly, then I think it'll really announce that we're past the rut (one win doesn't quite make that statement, as important as it was)
 
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sydmariner

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curt ams is avar :mad:
 

JoyfulPenguin

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curt ams is avar :mad:
I think Barriero is a good ref who has the backbone to ignore VAR if he disagrees.
 

Tevor

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I think Barriero is a good ref who has the backbone to ignore VAR if he disagrees.
The flog is no friend of ours, it wasn't that long ago he made a mess of one of our games if my recollection is correct. The League still think Victory are a chance so expect some special decisions, it's only the Mariners right.

Edit: It was the two horrendous penalties awarded in Brisvegas, we won but they were both terrible decisions and he wouldn't review them. He is dangerous in my opinion especially when someone is to up themselves to think they might have got it wrong.
 

Corsair

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curt ams is avar :mad:
Melbourne Victory vs Central Coast Mariners - AAMI Park
Sunday, 19 March 2023 - 5:00 PM (Local) (5:00 PM AEDT)


RefereeJonathan BarreiroFourth OfficialLachlan Keevers
Assistant Referee 1Daniel IlievskiVARKris Griffiths-Jones
Assistant Referee 2Andrew MeimarakisAVARKurt Ams
 

JoyfulPenguin

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Our stats with Barreiro;

Games 16
Wins 2 (12.5%)
Draws 6 (37.5%)
Losses 8 (50%)

Says it all.

And a 57% win rate with Victory. We will be playing 12 this weekend.
Watching him as a neutral with other teams I have been impressed by him, and he was always very good in NPL Victoria.

Surprised to see that our record with him in charge is so negative. Might also be because he is a Victorian based ref and we haven't won there in an eon?
 

marinermick

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Watching him as a neutral with other teams I have been impressed by him, and he was always very good in NPL Victoria.

Surprised to see that our record with him in charge is so negative. Might also be because he is a Victorian based ref and we haven't won there in an eon?

To be fair most of our stats won’t be favourable with referees because we were so shit for so long. Conversely stats will look better with the more successful clubs.

Most games are not won or lost by referees despite what people think.
 

Tevor

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To be fair most of our stats won’t be favourable with referees because we were so shit for so long. Conversely stats will look better with the more successful clubs.

Most games are not won or lost by referees despite what people think.
This is the third season we have now been a finals team, Barreiro has been officiating for 5 or 6 seasons. Our second win with him was not long ago against the Roar. Before that was 1 win in 15 games. The last few seasons have improved our stats with certain referees that we think are worst than Barreiro because we are a better team.

So you don’t think we have lost any games from officiating??? Let’s look at the hatrick of pens against us in Adelaide. Leckie stomping on Millers foot in the box. They are direct examples of impacted games and you can’t deny that losing most 50/50’s, receiving strategic cards, extensions to injury time, the list goes on does not make it harder for a team to win.
 

marinermick

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This is the third season we have now been a finals team, Barreiro has been officiating for 5 or 6 seasons. Our second win with him was not long ago against the Roar. Before that was 1 win in 15 games. The last few seasons have improved our stats with certain referees that we think are worst than Barreiro because we are a better team.

So you don’t think we have lost any games from officiating??? Let’s look at the hatrick of pens against us in Adelaide. Leckie stomping on Millers foot in the box. They are direct examples of impacted games and you can’t deny that losing most 50/50’s, receiving strategic cards, extensions to injury time, the list goes on does not make it harder for a team to win.

We also won games because of officiating but you choose to ignore that.

Despite being in the finals the last two years and maybe this year, when was the last time we won in Victoria? What state does JB mostly referee in? Was JB responsible for our Victorian losses?
 

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