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It seems like there is a lot of fault on the P+ side too. Even just down to the lack of talk about improvements and bare bones year 1 service was all very amateur.
So the a league needs to do a deal with npl.tv .
Didnt hear about them in the ring for broadcast rights. How are you expecting the league to get paid?
All that seems to be coming from P- is silence, they don't respond to anything with any meaningful information. I actually wonder if they even have any staff in Australia. Having said that if you look at sources like reddit, reports are their service and product in other countries like the UK is just as poor. Their aussie posts about A-league are full of people asking if they have pause and rewind yet.
The weird thing is the parent company is massive AND has a functional product overseas. Almost none of what has transpired makes any sense from their side. Even outside sport - launching without profiles? Really? No 4K or surround sound?
You say it like they had a heap of options. Foxtel used covid to screw the league and was sending it back to semi pro pay levels, there was a couple of years left on the deal which should have allowed the APL to work on engagement & metrics before going to market. From memory it came down to Stan & 9 or P+ and 10, Stan wasnt without it's drawbacks and Stan + Stan sport is mid to high 20s per month so inevitably some would have been upset about that. They have managed to put out a good and functional, modern streaming product though.
Maybe we're just a chicken feed, tiny market they don't care about.
But then why go to the effort of launching here at all? Or go to the effort of rolling out some more limited variation of the platform they already had. Surely the play is to build a global platform leveraging what they already have in the US, not spend time reinventing the wheel region by region or hurting their entry into other markets due to stupid stuff like not having a Samsung or LG app at launch. Nothing about it makes sense.
All they want is AFL or NRL, they missed the AFL so next off the rank is the NRL who are hating on Fox at the moment after apparently being shafted in their last deal compared to what they just gave the AFL. They seem to have little care, I imagine their non football subscribers are more than the club members so we are becoming more irrelevant every month that goes by.
So they picked a genuine lemon but they are still doing a good job in your eyes???
Even if we are, the millions of dollars spent on the A-Leagues certainly are not. It doesn't make sense how bad the product is for the size of their investment. They just seem to repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot for absolutely no reason.
We were just a foot in the door for the real prize. To be honest their investment is peanuts in the media rights world. Good money for the A Leagues but small change for CBS. They are clearly after the other codes.
are paramount currently paying ?
I'm thinking they may be separate businesses per country, maybe even franchises and they don't want to extend their IP to the franchisees.
Yes Paramount are paying the APL. If that funding went away the league would be in real danger.
That may be right. Still seems ridiculous though.
Decisions are made with the information available at the time. Sometimes hindsight says it wasn’t the right call but it is what it is. We don’t know what the pitches were, what assurances were given or what the contract terms are. Even if there are penalties or break clauses in there the APL might not want to blow the whole thing up right now. At face value it seemed like a good call, now not as much but hopefully it can be salvaged and P+ get their act together. In the mean time the APL and clubs need to get marketing and engaging the community so if they do need to go to market at some point they can get a respectable deal.
Hindsight!!!, it was the biggest gamble in the short history of the A league. You need to take off your rose coloured glasses every now and then. I know it is what it is, problem with that is it has turned out to be a disaster. I was hopeful when it was announced however also thought this could all end very bad. The season hasn't started so I'm channeling my inner Turbo positive thoughts only that by some small miracle we all get our codes and the first few rounds go off without a hitch.
There was no 'safe' choice and staying wasnt an option. Years of neglect, much of it by the FFA got us to that point where it was between 9 or 10 and their streaming services. If something went wrong had they gone with 9 it would have been 'It's obvious the NRL loving 9 wouldnt care about the league'. I can't remember if Stan sport was running back then (edit - it launched Feb 2021) or not but both leading bids had some major risks. That's not rose colored glasses it's just me trying to be objective about the whole thing. I'm not happy about the way the 10 partnership has panned out so far either.
