Sydney to host the Grand Final next 3 years

[adz]

Is it just me or does anyone else think $10 million to lock in 3 years of grand finals is a little light? Sounds more like 3-5 years of taking a CCM game to Mudgee. How does this keep the league "financially viable long term"? Did they miss a zero?

 

[FFC Mariner]

Yes

 

[Insertnamehere]

Is it just me or does anyone else think $10 million to lock in 3 years of grand finals is a little light? Sounds more like 3-5 years of taking a CCM game to Mudgee. How does this keep the league "financially viable long term"? Did they miss a zero?

$12m but yes. At ~300k a club a year. Seems unders.

 

[StensnessGOAT]

How was being on kayo better for growing the league when they had absolutely zero desire to keep it, let alone put any sort of half-decent offer forward?

Because the un-converted Australian sports fan could watch it on Kayo? Absolutely nobody who wasn't already a pre-established A-League fan is watching it on Paramount+ now. How do you expect to gain new fans now? Isn't that what growing the league means?

I was saying this at the time, don't need no benefit of hindsight? How was this not obvious to everyone?

 

[StensnessGOAT]

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Biggest overreaction ever. Genuinely rivals sandpapergate.

How the hell is hosting the Grand Final at a major venue "killing our game". Every other code does it and do you see their fans walking out? ?

 

[StensnessGOAT]

Just saw the Cove’s response. Very disappointing.

Their decision is to be silent for 23 minutes. That essentially means they will have the run of the atmosphere in the second half, after the Yellow Army walks out, which will crucially affect the on field play.

Don't walk out then. Don't betray your team over something that has nothing to do with them.

If you walk out and we lose because it crucially affects on field play, don't sook when we lose.

 

[priorpeter]

Don't walk out then. Don't betray your team over something that has nothing to do with them.

If you walk out and we lose because it crucially affects on field play, don't sook when we lose.

It’s not betraying the team. The club and the players are fully aware and back the decision.

 

[priorpeter]

Because the un-converted Australian sports fan could watch it on Kayo? Absolutely nobody who wasn't already a pre-established A-League fan is watching it on Paramount+ now. How do you expect to gain new fans now? Isn't that what growing the league means?

I was saying this at the time, don't need no benefit of hindsight? How was this not obvious to everyone?

You’ve completely omitted the part of my post where I said “It wasn’t an option [to stay with fox/kayo], and they showed their clear disdain for the league in the dying months of their broadcast agreement.” They didn’t want the rights, and any offer they made was massive unders and would have killed the league. I’ve been quite vocal about Paramount’s issues but fact of the matter is trying to beg Kayo to keep us was going to send the league so far backwards it would never have recovered.

 

[StensnessGOAT]

It’s not betraying the team. The club and the players are fully aware and back the decision.

Where have the club and players said that they are fully aware of the plans and back their fans walking out? I might’ve missed it if they’ve said that.

This has absolutely nothing to do with our team. Why would you walk out on them instead of being there to support them in their game of football?

 

[StensnessGOAT]

You’ve completely omitted the part of my post where I said “It wasn’t an option [to stay with fox/kayo], and they showed their clear disdain for the league in the dying months of their broadcast agreement.” They didn’t want the rights, and any offer they made was massive unders and would have killed the league. I’ve been quite vocal about Paramount’s issues but fact of the matter is trying to beg Kayo to keep us was going to send the league so far backwards it would never have recovered.

No I get that. Kayo didn’t really want it. That’s why I was just responding to the question of how being on Kayo was better.

The fact Kayo didn’t want it doesn’t change how bad the deal is and how much better off the game was to grow when it was on Kayo than it is now. I get there wasn’t many alternatives but it doesn’t change how ridiculously bad a deal it was always gonna be, other than the cash injection.

 

[priorpeter]

Where have the club and players said that they are fully aware of the plans and back their fans walking out? I might’ve missed it if they’ve said that.

This has absolutely nothing to do with our team. Why would you walk out on them instead of being there to support them in their game of football?

I talk to club staff and players on a pretty regular basis. They know this isn’t about them, and totally understand and appreciate the bigger picture at play here. Shaun says as much on the latest podcast episode which has just dropped.
They know they’re not being walked out on; this is all directed at the APL, with whom the players and staff are just as frustrated as us.

 

[StensnessGOAT]

Even if that’s the case, if as marinermick said, they run the atmosphere after the 23rd minute and it significantly impacts the on field play, I still see that as basically betraying the team and yourself if you care about the results of the team.

 

[bikinigirl]

Because the un-converted Australian sports fan could watch it on Kayo? Absolutely nobody who wasn't already a pre-established A-League fan is watching it on Paramount+ now. How do you expect to gain new fans now? Isn't that what growing the league means?

I was saying this at the time, don't need no benefit of hindsight? How was this not obvious to everyone?

. i think the point you have missed is that Kayo would have needed to produce the coverage. it is not like buying the rights to a sport already produced elsewhere - they would have to do the lot ... and all indications were that they were unwilling

. no production = no new fans

 

[turbo]

How do you expect to gain new fans now?

We went from a 5pm ABC game to a prime time match of the round on 10 - now changed to 2 games on 10 bold. I’d argue that’s pretty accessible for new fans. Kayo was good for those that have it though.

 

[turbo]

. i think the point you have missed is that Kayo would have needed to produce the coverage. it is not like buying the rights to a sport already produced elsewhere - they would have to do the lot ... and all indications were that they were unwilling

. no production = no new fans

The amount of cameras definitely dropped at the end of the Foxtel deal. Bugger all cross promotion, even had watermarks prompting people to switch to the cricket.

 

[FFC Mariner]

May I say that I thought @Shaun Mielekamp was exceptional on the pod and deserves the opportunity to have a bigger voice in the game.
Contrast his passion and honesty with the scomo like spin from the APL
We can disagree on occasion but you can't argue that he cares.
Top work

 

[marinermick]

May I say that I thought @Shaun Mielekamp was exceptional on the pod and deserves the opportunity to have a bigger voice in the game.
Contrast his passion and honesty with the scomo like spin from the APL
We can disagree on occasion but you can't argue that he cares.
Top work

Totally agree. Maybe Shaun should be APL CEO. He is also a good bloke but also competent

 

[BrisRecky]

. i think the point you have missed is that Kayo would have needed to produce the coverage. it is not like buying the rights to a sport already produced elsewhere - they would have to do the lot ... and all indications were that they were unwilling

. no production = no new fans

arent Kayo, just a collection of stuff from Fox Sports, ESPN and Bein Sports?...they dont have mobile trucks or anything do they?

 

[turbo]

arent Kayo, just a collection of stuff from Fox Sports, ESPN and Bein Sports?...they dont have mobile trucks or anything do they?

It’s Foxtel. Foxtel have espn and bein content too.

 

[Luke]

Even if that’s the case, if as marinermick said, they run the atmosphere after the 23rd minute and it significantly impacts the on field play, I still see that as basically betraying the team and yourself if you care about the results of the team.

Are you 12